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December 17, 2025 | 3 Mins Read

2025 Retrospective with Roy Dockery of TSIA 

December 17, 2025 | 3 Mins Read

2025 Retrospective with Roy Dockery of TSIA 

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Episode 345

Field service leaders made bold predictions for 2025, and while progress has been real, the gap between ambition and execution reveals critical lessons for navigating 2026 and beyond. 

In this episode of UNSCRIPTED, host Sarah Nicastro sits down with Roy Dockery, Senior Director of Field Services Research at TSIA and author of *The Art of Leading*, to reflect on their 2025 predictions, assess what actually happened in the field service industry, and explore what leaders need to prioritize next. Together, they examine workforce flexibility, customer expectations, technology debt, AI adoption, and the irreplaceable human element in service delivery—offering candid insights on where the industry succeeded, where it stumbled, and what's required to move the needle in 2026. 

What You'll Learn

  • How to recognize when economic uncertainty becomes an excuse for inaction: Understand why talent pressures temporarily eased in 2025 and why that relief may have caused leaders to defer critical workforce flexibility investments—and what that means for your competitive position. 
  • Why "response time" is now meaningless without "resolution": Learn how customer expectations have fundamentally shifted from fast response to guaranteed outcomes, and why this gap exposes complacency in service portfolios that haven't evolved beyond transactional, break-fix models. 
  • The hidden cost of technology debt: Discover how outdated systems and disconnected tools are now your execution arm's biggest liability, and why operational excellence—once a competitive differentiator—is now table stakes that must be matched before differentiation can happen. 
  • How to separate AI hype from AI reality in field service: Recognize the real misstep in 2025 wasn't failed technology—it was vendors and partners overpromising delivery timelines while underestimating the data preparation and system integration work required to unlock AI's true potential. 
  • Why storytelling has become a non-negotiable leadership skill in constrained budgets: Understand how reorgs across the industry are elevating leaders who inspire teams to do more with less, rather than those who simply manage tasks or buy talent—and why authenticity cannot be automated. 
  • How to institutionalize agility before the next crisis hits: Learn why most organizations slide back into old habits when external pressure eases, and why supply chain resilience, asset management, and adaptive processes must become permanent operating systems—not crisis responses. 

About the Guest(s)

Roy Dockery is Senior Director of Field Services Research at TSIA and author of *The Art of Leading*, known for his expertise in field service strategy, organizational leadership, and industry trends. With over a decade of experience in field operations and consulting, he has become a thought leader in helping service organizations navigate technological transformation and workforce challenges. In this episode, Roy reflects on 2025's major developments—from technology debt and AI adoption to talent retention and customer expectations—providing candid insights on where the industry succeeded and where progress fell short. His work identifying unique challenges across healthcare, food service, industrial equipment, and data center verticals has helped leaders understand that operational excellence is now table stakes rather than a competitive differentiator, making this conversation essential for service leaders looking to drive meaningful impact in 2026. 

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[00:01] Welcome to 2025 Reflection with Sarah and Roy 

[00:02] How Economic Uncertainty Eased Talent Pressures This Year 

[00:09] Why Response Time Means Nothing Without Resolution 

[00:14] Technology Debt Is Now Your Biggest Competitive Liability 

[00:19] AI Wins and Missteps: Separating Hype from Reality 

[00:22] How to Make AI Work: The Data Prep Nobody Talks About 

[00:26] Why Storytelling Leaders Are Rising to the Top 

[00:29] Talent Acquisition Slow Progress and Long-Term Reality 

[00:32] Supply Chain: Why We Keep Learning the Same Lessons 

[00:33] Institutionalizing Agility Before the Next Crisis 

[00:34] Reflecting on What We Got Wrong and What Comes Next 

[00:35] Roy's Professional Highlight: The Standout 50 Impact 

[00:38] Sarah's Personal Highlight: Adventure in Costa Rica 

[00:39] Sarah's Professional Win: Keynote on Service North Stars 

[00:40] What's Coming in 2026: AI and Human Superpowers 

[00:44] Seven Years of Partnership and Field Service Legacy 

[00:45] Final Thoughts and Looking Forward Together 

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December 10, 2025 | 3 Mins Read

CX Isn't a “Nice-to-Have” in Uncertain Times; It's a Competitive Lifeline 

December 10, 2025 | 3 Mins Read

CX Isn't a “Nice-to-Have” in Uncertain Times; It's a Competitive Lifeline 

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Episode 344

In this episode of UNSCRIPTED, host Sarah Nicastro sits down with award-winning CX expert Jeannie Walters to explore why customer experience isn't a nice-to-have (even in amid uncertainty). She sheds light on how to align your organization's mindset, strategy, and discipline around it, and explains why frontline employees remain a largely untapped resource. Whether you're a service leader struggling to justify CX investments or an operational executive navigating budget pressures, this conversation is packed with candid insights on bridging the gap between CX intent and execution.  

What You'll Learn

  • How to bridge the intention-resource gap: Translate CX commitments into concrete budget allocation and daily operational activities by anchoring customer experience goals to organizational priorities like revenue growth and cost reduction, not feel-good messaging. 
  • Why employee experience directly determines customer experience outcomes: Employees are the number-one driver of CX—if you make promises to customers but treat employees poorly, you create an integrity crisis that erodes trust and increases turnover. 
  • The Mindset-Strategy-Discipline framework for authentic transformation: Move beyond surface-level CX initiatives by establishing a clear customer experience mission statement (internal-first), defining measurable strategies aligned to business goals, and maintaining disciplined execution through consistent feedback loops and accountability. 
  • How to leverage frontline workers as your richest insight source: Field service teams, cashiers, and customer-facing staff observe trends, customer pain points, and operational friction daily—create safe channels for them to surface feedback and include them in journey mapping conversations. 
  • Why surveys alone fail and how to build a multilayered feedback strategy: Combine NPS and surveys with behavioral analytics, real-time coaching insights, and voice-of-customer programs to identify actionable patterns rather than vanity metrics; avoid gaming the system by ensuring feedback directly influences operational decisions. 
  • The role of AI in elevating human service, not replacing it: Use AI to equip frontline teams with real-time knowledge and handle routine inquiries, freeing humans for complex, emotionally-demanding interactions—but remain intentional about where human connection is non-negotiable for competitive differentiation. 

About the Guest(s)

Jeannie Walters is an award-winning customer experience expert and founder of Experience Investigators, a firm dedicated to helping companies increase sales and customer retention through elevated customer experiences. With decades of expertise in customer experience strategy, she has authored the upcoming book *Experience is Everything* and delivers keynote speeches and training workshops to organizations across industries. In this episode, Jeannie addresses the critical intersection of employee experience and customer experience, providing service leaders with actionable frameworks for aligning organizational goals, building authentic listening cultures, and maintaining customer-centric focus amid uncertainty. Her work has empowered companies to move beyond surface-level CX initiatives to drive measurable business outcomes, making her insights invaluable for operations and service leaders seeking to transform customer experience into a genuine competitive advantage. 

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  • [02:20] Why CX Investment Gaps Matter in Uncertain Times 
  • [05:32] The Conflicting Priorities Killing Your Frontline Teams 
  • [08:55] Lead with Business Language to Advocate for CX 
  • [13:26] From Talk to Action: Building Your CX Mission 
  • [15:18] Frontline Workers Are Your Richest Insight Source 
  • [19:15] Employee Experience Directly Drives Customer Experience 
  • [23:49] Authentic Listening: The Foundation of Strong Culture 
  • [28:08] Mission Moments: Building Trust Through Consistency 
  • [30:42] Beyond NPS: Building a Multilayered Feedback Strategy 
  • [37:36] AI's Role in Elevating—Not Replacing—Human Service 
  • [45:32] Balancing Automation with Human Connection 
  • [47:16] 2026 CX Trends: Personalization Meets Ecosystem Thinking 
  • [49:16] Key Takeaways: Making CX Your Competitive Advantage 

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December 3, 2025 | 3 Mins Read

Commercial Excellence in Field Service: Assessing Trends & Defining Best Practices  

December 3, 2025 | 3 Mins Read

Commercial Excellence in Field Service: Assessing Trends & Defining Best Practices  

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Episode 343

In this episode of UNSCRIPTED, Sarah Nicastro sits down with Dave Clement, Partner and Head of the New York office at Simon-Kucher, to unpack a joint global research project to explore the trends, challenges, and opportunities defining commercial potential within today's service landscape. Whether you're navigating digital transformation, rethinking your pricing strategy, or building a customer-centric growth model, this conversation sheds light on what the research reveals about the foundational shifts required to translate commercial excellence into competitive edge.

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What You'll Learn

  • Why operational excellence is now table stakes, not competitive differentiation—and what actually separates leaders today (customer centricity, commercial strategy, and innovation in how you engage and serve) 
  • How to shift from industry-only benchmarking to cross-industry learning—the competitive edge comes from understanding what works in consumer tech, retail, and other sectors, then adapting it to your service model 
  • The critical distinction between digital foundation and digital intelligence—you must build a modern core platform with real-time visibility before layering AI and predictive analytics, or you risk building on unstable ground 
  • Why pricing remains massively underutilized as a lever for growth—most field service organizations haven't tapped value-based pricing strategies despite mounting cost pressures, creating immediate opportunity 
  • How to identify if your company has "its house in order"—companies with strong customer segmentation, foundational tools (CRM, data governance), and clear processes outperform competitors by 20 points on profit and revenue growth when implementing digital capabilities 
  • The "force multiplier" mindset that separates optimistic leaders from those in survival mode—reframe digital transformation and commercial excellence as amplifying your team's capability rather than cutting costs, which fundamentally changes how organizations approach change management and adoption 

About The Guests

Dave Clement is a Partner and Head of the New York Office at Simon Kucher, a global consultancy specializing in commercial excellence and value-based pricing strategies. With thirteen years of experience at the firm and a focus on industrial services, Dave brings deep expertise in sales strategy, pricing optimization, and digital transformation within field service organizations. In this episode, Dave shares findings from a comprehensive study of 180 global executives spanning multiple service industries and geographies, offering practical frameworks for improving commercial performance, implementing digital capabilities, and driving sustainable growth. His insights on bridging operational excellence with customer-centric commercial strategies provide actionable direction for service leaders navigating pricing pressures, talent challenges, and evolving customer expectations in today's competitive landscape. 

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  • [00:01:33] Meet Dave Clement: 40 Years of Commercial Excellence at Simon Kucher 
  • [00:03:35] Why Field Service Needs Commercial Excellence Now More Than Ever 
  • [00:09:17] Research Deep Dive: 180 Executives, Global Insights, Real Trends 
  • [00:13:31] Universal Challenges Across Industries Create Community Strength 
  • [00:16:25] Operational Excellence Is Now Table Stakes, Not Competitive Differentiation 
  • [00:20:51] 80-90% Optimism Signals a Wide-Open Window for Growth 
  • [00:23:14] Challenges Are Opportunities: Pricing, Competitors, and Digital Adoption 
  • [00:25:36] From Eye Roll to Game Changer: The Digital Journey in Industrial Services 
  • [00:27:56] Foundation First: Why Digital Infrastructure Beats Innovation Without Fundamentals 
  • [00:30:13] Distinguish Digital Foundation From Digital Intelligence to Avoid Misaligned Investment 
  • [00:35:46] Reframe Digital as Force Multiplication, Not Cost Reduction 
  • [00:37:24] What's Next: Research Rollout, February Event, and Ongoing Content 
  • [00:40:04] Key Takeaways and How to Connect With Dave Clement 

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November 19, 2025 | 1 Mins Read

Industrial X Unleashed Highlights 

November 19, 2025 | 1 Mins Read

Industrial X Unleashed Highlights 

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Episode 342

In this episode of UNSCRIPTED, host Sarah Nicastro shares highlights from IFS's Industrial x Unleashed event last week in New York, exploring why industrial AI requires a fundamentally different approach than consumer-grade tools, how leading organizations like Kodiak Gas are driving real value through agentic AI, and critical considerations for making AI solutions usable and meaningful in mission-critical operations.

What You'll Learn

  • Why industrial AI is fundamentally different from consumer-grade AI
  • The realities and risks of AI in high-stakes environments
  • Major industrial AI partnerships shaping the future
  • How leading organizations are already using agentic AI
  • How to build AI solutions frontline workers will actually trust and use
  • What it means to be a “promise keeper” and “agent of change” in enterprise tech
  • The mindset shift leaders need for the “intelligence age”
  • Why now is the moment to experiment, learn, and build

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  • [00:00] Welcome & Episode Setup
  • [02:05] What Industrial AI Really Means
  • [05:12] The Stakes: Why Consumer AI Won’t Cut It
  • [08:20] PwC’s Mohamed Kande: Entering the Intelligence Age
  • [15:55] Agentic AI at Kodiak Gas
  • [19:52] Designing AI Workers Trust: Insights from Kriti Sharma
  • [25:10] Sarah’s Reflections: Adoption, Anxiety & Realistic Progress

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November 12, 2025 | 3 Mins Read

Authoritarian Leadership is Out: Why (and How) to Embrace the Power of Mattering   

November 12, 2025 | 3 Mins Read

Authoritarian Leadership is Out: Why (and How) to Embrace the Power of Mattering   

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Episode 341

What if the secret to sustainable performance and genuine employee engagement wasn't another program or initiative, but something far simpler—and infinitely more powerful? In this episode of UNSCRIPTED, host Sarah Nicastro sits down with Zach Mercurio, PhD organizational researcher and author of *The Power of Mattering*, to explore why feeling valued is a survival instinct, not a soft skill; how the three practices of noticing, affirming, and needing can transform your culture; and why command-and-control leadership is fundamentally incompatible with the innovation and loyalty leaders claim to want. Whether you're struggling with engagement, turnover, or the gap between the results you want and the results you're getting, this conversation reveals that the magic happens not in programs, but in the daily interactions where leaders show people they matter—and why that distinction changes everything. 

What You'll Learn

  • Why mattering differs from belonging and inclusion—and why it matters most. Belonging is being picked for the team; inclusion is playing in the game; mattering is feeling the team wouldn't be complete without you. This distinction is critical because only mattering creates sustained motivation and performance. 
  • How the "noticing, affirming, and needing" framework transforms daily interactions. Leaders who implement simple practices—like Zach's "noticing notebook" example—consistently observe, note details about their people, and schedule intentional check-ins to remind employees they're remembered and valued. 
  • Why command-and-control leadership fails in complex, uncertain environments. Fear-based management may drive short-term gains but erodes trust, stifles creativity, and triggers survival mode—the opposite of the psychological state needed for innovation, problem-solving, and discretionary effort. 
  • How to reframe "difficult employees" as people experiencing unmet needs. When someone acts out or withdraws, it signals disconnection, not defiance. Seeking understanding before evaluation—and investing in relationships first—creates the foundation for actual performance improvement. 
  • The actionable difference between appreciation, recognition, and affirmation. Appreciation is general gratitude; recognition celebrates wins; but affirmation shows someone their *unique* strengths and *specific* impact. This specificity is what makes people feel genuinely valued. 
  • Why symbols of value (awards, perks, raises) can never replace the daily experience of feeling valued. The magic happens when recognition symbols align with consistent, authentic interactions. No trophy overcomes the daily experience of feeling unseen, unheard, or insignificant. 
  • How to start mattering work regardless of your organization's readiness. You don't need board approval to show up authentically in your next interaction. Leaders can lead by example, creating reciprocal norms that ripple upward and outward—all within their direct control

About the Guest(s)

Zach Mercurio is an author, researcher, and leadership development facilitator specializing in purposeful leadership, meaningful work, and the transformative concept of mattering. With a PhD in organizational learning, performance, and change, Mercurio has become a sought-after advisor for leaders and organizations worldwide seeking to build cultures that promote well-being, motivation, and sustainable performance. His research-backed approach challenges conventional leadership wisdom, demonstrating that feeling valued is the prerequisite to adding value. In this episode, Zach explores how leaders can move beyond transactional management to create genuine human connection in the workplace, offering practical frameworks—noticing, affirming, and needing—that directly address the crisis of employee disengagement. His insights are essential listening for service leaders committed to building organizations where people feel significant, engaged, and genuinely invested in collective outcomes. 

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  • [01:30] Belonging vs. Mattering: Why Only People Can Show People Their Value 
  • [07:34] Why Fear-Based Leadership Fails in Complex Environments 
  • [15:12] The Gap Between Wanting Outcomes and Doing the Work 
  • [22:27] Notice, Affirm, Need: The Three-Step Framework for Creating Mattering 
  • [29:50] The Power of Strategic Questions and the Noticing Notebook 
  • [35:53] Showing Impact Through Evidence: The "Look What You Did" Practice 
  • [40:21] Reframe Difficult Behavior: From Defiance to Disconnection 
  • [46:32] You Matter: Finding Significance and Paying It Forward 
  • [52:15] Why Recognition Programs Can't Replace Authentic Daily Interactions 
  • [55:52] Lead With Care Regardless of Your Organization's Culture 
  • [57:53] Where to Learn More and Final Thoughts 

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November 5, 2025 | 2 Mins Read

Why Modern Leadership Demands More Self-Reflection (And How to Fit That In) 

November 5, 2025 | 2 Mins Read

Why Modern Leadership Demands More Self-Reflection (And How to Fit That In) 

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Episode 340

In this episode of UNSCRIPTED, Sarah Nicastro sits down with Erin Coupe, former Wall Street executive turned leadership expert, to explore why modern leadership demands greater self-reflection and how to achieve it without burning out. Erin shares powerful insights on transforming routines into meaningful rituals, building authentic leadership practices, and creating sustainable success without sacrificing personal wellbeing. Whether you're a high-achieving executive feeling stretched thin or a leader seeking to cultivate a more conscious approach to success, this conversation offers practical wisdom on balancing achievement with fulfillment in today's demanding business landscape. 

What You'll Learn

  • How to transition from draining routines to energizing rituals that create lasting positive change 
  • Why modern leadership demands more self-reflection and emotional intelligence in today's volatile business environment 
  • The crucial difference between motion and momentum with meaning in leadership practice 
  • How to measure the ROI of leadership development through preventing turnover, progressing innovation, and improving engagement 
  • Why success metrics are shifting from pure productivity to fulfillment and energy management 
  • How to implement authentic leadership practices within traditional corporate environments 
  • The importance of becoming a steward of your own energy and presence in leadership roles 
  • Why traditional success metrics based on time management are evolving toward fulfillment-based productivity 
  • How to recognize when organizational culture needs transformation and navigate that change effectively 

About the Guest(s)

Erin Coupe is a former Wall Street executive and Fortune 200 corporate leader turned international speaker and executive consultant. With extensive experience in high-pressure corporate environments, including Goldman Sachs, she now partners with top executives in Fortune 500 companies to develop authentic leadership practices and personal development strategies. As the author of "I Can Fit That In," Erin specializes in helping high-achieving professionals transform their approach to leadership through emotional intelligence, mindfulness, and holistic well-being practices. Her unique methodology combines her corporate background with expertise in neuroscience, energy dynamics, and personal development, making her a trusted bridge between traditional business success and modern leadership demands. Having experienced her own transformation from burnout to balanced success, Erin now guides leaders in creating sustainable success without sacrificing personal fulfillment. 

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  • [00:00] Intro: Why Modern Leadership Demands Self-Reflection 
  • [01:37] From Wall Street to Wellness: Erin's Personal Journey 
  • [05:24] Who Needs Inner Work? Understanding the Target Audience 
  • [07:20] The Shift: Why Leaders Must Build Internal Trust 
  • [13:08] Practical Tools for Leadership Transformation 
  • [17:00] Routines vs. Rituals: The Power of Intentional Practice 
  • [19:55] Measuring ROI: The Business Case for Leadership Development 
  • [24:59] Can Inner Work Thrive in Corporate Culture? 
  • [32:36] Looking Forward: Redefining Success Through Fulfillment 
  • [34:16] Final Thoughts: Finding Your Leadership Path 

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October 29, 2025 | 2 Mins Read

The Intentional Leader: Mastering Presence, Boundaries, and the Art of the “Unfinished Portfolio” 

October 29, 2025 | 2 Mins Read

The Intentional Leader: Mastering Presence, Boundaries, and the Art of the “Unfinished Portfolio” 

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Episode 339

In this episode of UNSCRIPTED, host Sarah Nicastro welcomes back Eduardo Bonefont, who used to be the worldwide VP of Technical Services at BD. They'll talk about how to lead with purpose. Eduardo shares profound insights on mastering presence, maintaining emotional consistency, and leaving a lasting legacy through what he calls the "unfinished portfolio." Whether you're approaching retirement or seeking to maximize your leadership impact, this conversation offers practical strategies for protecting your time, driving innovation, and creating meaningful change. 

What You'll Learn

  • How to maintain authentic presence by eliminating distractions and modeling focused engagement in critical moments 
  • The "Think Big, Start Small, Move Fast" framework for driving strategic execution while managing risk 
  • Why emotional consistency is crucial for building trust and how to balance authenticity with professional composure 
  • How to protect your calendar and create boundaries that enable high-impact strategic work 
  • The principle of the "Unfinished Portfolio" and how to maximize your leadership impact as you approach career transitions 
  • Why staying relevant and connected to emerging trends is essential for maintaining strategic value 
  • How to transition from operational necessity to strategic indispensability while developing future leaders 
  • The importance of proactive legacy planning and why giving back to the industry matters 

About the Guest(s)

Eduardo Bonifant is the former Worldwide Vice President of Technical Services at BD, where he established himself as an authority on intentional leadership and strategic service operations. With decades of operational experience in technical services, Eduardo has developed actionable operating models for purpose-driven leadership focused on presence, strategic execution, and legacy building. In this episode, he shares invaluable insights on mastering intentional leadership, including practical approaches to maintaining emotional consistency, executing bold visions, and maximizing impact through what he calls "the unfinished portfolio." His retirement shows his belief in leaving a lasting legacy. He still helps the service community by speaking and attending events like the Service Council Symposium. Eduardo's expertise in transforming service operations while maintaining strategic relevance makes this conversation particularly valuable for service executives seeking to enhance their leadership impact and create lasting organizational change. 

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  • [00:00] Intro - Mastering Intentional Leadership with Eduardo Bonifant 
  • [04:08] The Power of Presence: Eliminating Distractions in Leadership 
  • [09:14] Emotional Consistency: Balancing Authenticity with Leadership 
  • [13:44] Think Big, Start Small, Move Fast: A Framework for Strategic Execution 
  • [16:17] Breaking Free from Status Quo: Annual Performance Re-engineering 
  • [19:31] The Unfinished Portfolio: Creating Lasting Impact Before Retirement 
  • [24:04] Manufacturing Strategic Time: From Reactive to Proactive Leadership 
  • [29:23] Legacy Planning: Staying Relevant and Connected Post-Leadership 
  • [36:17] Key Takeaways: making Your Experience Count 

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October 22, 2025 | 2 Mins Read

This and That (Bits and Bobs)  

October 22, 2025 | 2 Mins Read

This and That (Bits and Bobs)  

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Episode 338

In a solo episode, UNSCRIPTED host Sarah Nicastro shares updates, reflections, and sneak peeks into what’s next for the Future of Field Service community. Following the announcement of the 2025 Stand Out 50 Leaders, Sarah takes a breath to celebrate the honorees, thank those behind the scenes, and look ahead to what’s coming; New newsletters, upcoming research projects, and community-building initiatives.

What's Covered?

  • Reflections on the 2025 Stand Out 50 Leaders announcement and what’s ahead for the community
  • The relaunch of the Future of Field Service newsletters, including how the LinkedIn Newsletter and Insider Email Newsletter differ
  • Details on the new Stand Out 50 private LinkedIn group and Sarah’s goals for strengthening connection among honorees
  • A preview of two upcoming research projects; the 2025 Stand Out Service Trends Report and a new global study on commercial excellence in service in partnership with Simon-Kucher
  • Early thoughts and aspirations for 2026, potential live events, and community growth opportunities

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  • 00:00 – Welcome and opening thoughts — taking a breath after the Stand Out 50 announcement
  • 00:30 – Congratulations to the 2025 Stand Out 50 Leaders and thanks to judges and contributors
  • 02:00 – Relaunching the Future of Field Service newsletters: what’s new and how they differ
  • 04:30 – Inside the Stand Out 50 LinkedIn group — building community and connection
  • 06:30 – The upcoming Stand Out Service Trends Report and new research partnership with Simon-Kucher
  • 09:45 – Looking ahead to 2026 — possible events and community ideas
  • 10:48 – Final thoughts, calls to action, and how to stay connected

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October 15, 2025 | 2 Mins Read

The Untold Truths of Service Leadership: Part Two – When It Gets Personal  

October 15, 2025 | 2 Mins Read

The Untold Truths of Service Leadership: Part Two – When It Gets Personal  

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Episode 337

In this candid episode of UNSCRIPTED, host Sarah Nicastro and Gyner Ozgul, CEO of Fortis Fire and Safety, dive deep into the personal side of service leadership, exploring five untold truths that shape modern leadership. From the critical importance of mental health awareness to the complexities of aging as a leader, they tackle topics rarely discussed in traditional business settings. Whether you're navigating vulnerability in leadership, managing conflict, or balancing experience with innovation, this honest conversation delivers valuable insights for service leaders looking to build more authentic and effective organizations. Tune in to discover why letting go of the "always-knows-best" mindset might be your key to stronger team relationships and better business outcomes. 

If you missed part one of this two-part episode, check out Episode 329.  

What You'll Learn

  • Why mental health discussions are crucial for both leaders and frontline workers in service organizations 
  • How to navigate the emotional complexities of aging as a leader while maintaining effectiveness 
  • The strategic advantage of embracing vulnerability as a leadership tool and how to use it appropriately 
  • Why avoiding conflict destroys trust and how to build honest communication channels 
  • How to prevent experience from becoming a limitation rather than an asset in leadership 
  • The importance of balancing personal growth with professional responsibilities as a service leader 
  • Why creating safe spaces for authentic conversations drives organizational success 
  • How to champion vulnerability in others while maintaining professional boundaries 
  • The critical role of leaders in modeling transparent communication and trust-building behaviors 
  • Why evolving priorities and perspective shifts are natural parts of leadership growth 

About the Guest(s)

Gyner Ozgul is the CEO of Fortis Fire and Safety, recognized as one of the Future of Field Service Standout 50 Leaders for 2025. With extensive experience in operations, supply chain management, and service leadership, he brings a wealth of practical insights to the industry. In this episode, Gyner shares candid perspectives on the personal challenges of service leadership, including mental health awareness, vulnerability in leadership, and the evolving dynamics of experienced leadership. His authentic approach to leadership and willingness to discuss often-overlooked aspects of executive roles makes him a valuable voice for service leaders navigating similar challenges. Gyner's commitment to transparent leadership and employee development, combined with his personal journey of growth through coaching and self-awareness, offers valuable lessons for service executives seeking to build more resilient and trust-based organizations. 

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  • [00:00] Intro: Untold Truths of Service Leadership with Gyner Ozgul 
  • [02:47] Breaking the Silence: Mental Health in Service Leadership 
  • [12:48] The Complex Journey of Growing Older as a Leader 
  • [18:36] Why Vulnerability is Leadership's Hidden Superpower 
  • [30:44] Building Trust Through Honest Communication 
  • [40:43] When Experience Becomes a Leadership Blindspot 
  • [45:10] Key Takeaways: Leading with Authenticity and Purpose 

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October 8, 2025 | 2 Mins Read

Stand Out 50 2025: The Judge’s Table

October 8, 2025 | 2 Mins Read

Stand Out 50 2025: The Judge’s Table

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Episode 326

In this special episode of UNSCRIPTED, Sarah Nicastro sits down with two of this year’s Stand Out 50 Awards judges: Roy Dockery, Senior Director of Field Services Research at TSIA, and Ged Cranny, recently retired Senior Consultant for Konica Minolta’s international service business after a 45-year career in field service. Together, they pull back the curtain on the 2025 Stand Out 50 judging process to explore what defines great service leadership today; from empathy and storytelling to adaptability and foresight in the AI era. Both Roy and Ged share how recognition fuels purpose, how authentic leadership inspires loyalty, and why emotional intelligence and strategic storytelling will continue to shape the next generation of service leaders.

What You'll Learn

  • Why recognition and storytelling are vital to service culture
  • The authentic leadership traits that drive engagement and trust
  • How to lead through technological change and AI transformation
  • Why empathy and foresight are non-negotiable for the next era of leaders
  • Lessons from the 2025 Stand Out 50 Awards judging process

About the Guest(s)

Roy Dockery
Roy Dockery is Senior Director of Field Services Research at TSIA, an author, and speaker. A former service executive with deep operational experience, Roy brings a grounded yet forward-looking perspective on leadership, culture, and empowerment. His work focuses on helping service leaders balance authenticity and accountability while building organizations where people feel seen, valued, and inspired to perform.

Ged Cranny
Ged Cranny recently retired as Senior Consultant for Konica Minolta’s international service business, marking the culmination of a 45-year career devoted to advancing field service excellence. He is widely respected for championing customer-centric transformation and developing the next generation of service leaders. A long-time supporter of Future of Field Service, Ged has been instrumental in highlighting the human side of leadership — blending strategic clarity with empathy and storytelling to connect business goals to real-world impact.

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  • [0:00 – 3:00] Introductions to the Stand Out 50 Judges Table.
  • [3:00 – 8:00] Why recognizing service leaders matters.
  • [8:00 – 14:00] Defining standout leadership: authenticity, empathy, and inspiration.
  • [14:00 – 18:00] Ged on storytelling and earning trust across every level.
  • [18:00 – 25:00] Roy’s story on being overlooked for an award & what true recognition looks like.
  • [25:00 – 30:00] Ged’s proudest leadership moments during crisis.
  • [30:00 – 38:00] How AI is reshaping leadership and workforce development.
  • [38:00 – 44:00] Balancing technology with empathy and human connection.
  • [44:00 – End] Reflections on judging this year’s nominations and lessons from the Stand Out 50.

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